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3 minutes ago, shinymcshine said:

Does Okami qualify as its own 'franchise' through its repeated re-releases...... 😉

Two games though. So does that count as enough to be a franchise?

 

15 minutes ago, radiofloyd said:

From Software are probably on the longest winning streak at the moment

I just wish they would remember Armoured Core exists.

 

9 minutes ago, bellow said:

I quite liked other m, too. 

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Ignoring the cutscenes and associated dialogue. Plus the faux-FPS bits and the rest was.. fine. The only thing I really remember about it was the space octopus boss at the end was quite good. 

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1 hour ago, bellow said:

I quite liked other m, too. 

 

Oh no, Other M discourse.

 

The Ninja Gaiden engine gives it pretty slick action and pointing at the screen to seamlessly move into first person is cool.  Weaken enemies, find safety, lock into position and go into FP and unleash missiles.  RE4-esque if you ask me.  The exploring is rolled back a bit much with secrets not being as interestingly hidden like they were in Prime 2 but they were hardly in your face.  

 

The justification for your upgrades is very meme-able but it seems like lots of people hang their whole opinion on that aspect which is ridiculous.

 

I don't think it's an awesome Metroid game but I definitely think it's interesting.  You can do a lot worse.

And it's wild to me that this is an unusual take.

 

 

Any long running series that exists during different technologies, developers and trends is gonna have divisive entries.  Or you can be Jeff Minter and tweak Tempest for nearly 30 years.

 

 

Me at the Other M discourse

 

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Bloody iconic

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The Elder Scrolls and Monster Hunter are the ones that immediately spring to mind, although with TES you're looking at some modding which might disqualify.

 

Civ tend to be reliable games too.

 

I sort of want to say Football Manager games too, despite not really playing them, I hear nothing but great things with each iteration.

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2 hours ago, OCH said:

The only thing I really remember about it was the space octopus boss at the end was quite good. 

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Just had a google..

 

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Oof I didn't even realise at the time, that was Phantoon😱

 

For context: 

 

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OG Phantoon ala Super Metroid.

 

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Other M chat spoilered to not distract the topic 

 

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I didn't realise that was Phantoon either.  Dunno why that never clicked because it is obvious.

 

Apart from Ridley the only returning boss I remember was Nightmare from Fusion since it was a bit fresher in my mind.  And I always liked that gloopy idiot

 

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Other M had some good gameplay if you get past the unwieldy controls. There was something oddly satisfying about pulling off a just dodge, flicking the Wiimote towards the screen and having your beam instantly charged to unleash carnage. I played through it on hard which locked you out of collecting additional energy tanks, meaning you basically couldn't get hit at all. Really fast-paced and rewarding and the fanservice bosses were pretty cool, too.

 

Unfortunately everything else was garbage, mostly the linear design and the horrible storyline, dialogue and Samus' characterisation. As a standalone new IP it probably would have been better received at the time.

 

3 hours ago, OCH said:

I'd forgotten that existed. Has any fighting game made a spin-off that is actually good? MK Mythologies, Special Forces, Soul Calibur Legends and Death By Degrees. They are the only ones I can think of, and they're all terrible.

 

Puzzle Fighter is pretty good but yeah, that's the only exception I can think of.

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4 hours ago, Sly Reflex said:

I sort of want to say Football Manager games too, despite not really playing them, I hear nothing but great things with each iteration.

 

I'm not sure how the whole SI/Sega/Eidos/SqEnix thing between Championship Manager & Football Manager actually worked out in terms of which was/is the continuous franchise.

 

Either way it's nothing to do with Kevin Toms.....

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