bellow Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Is ray tracing a very subtle effect? I watched a DF video where they were turning it on and off. I could hardly see the difference. Then again my telly is only 1080p so it might have been that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 @bellowRay Tracing is all about reflections and realistic lighting properly bouncing off surfaces not your resolution. You’ll be able to see that benefit no matter what your tv is and It’s been a pretty big and noticeable difference whenever I’ve see it. The new Spiderman& remaster look particularly impressive. Maybe a bad demo? Does tend to look a lot better on games built for it. I’ve seen it applied to Gears 5 and that was barely noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 12 hours ago, Maryokutai said: Keep in mind Watch Dogs was supposed to come out earlier this year, so that's probably the one new game on that list where they didn't have to crunch themselves to almost-death. I think Ubisoft are one of the best studios for not having to crunch. Obviously they have other issues like the sexual harassment stuff but yeah I think for not having to crunch they're one of the best. Source 11 hours ago, mfnick said: I’ve seen it applied to Gears 5 and that was barely noticeable. That was screen-space reflections, not RT. We haven't seen a single XSX game with RT yet outside of a 30 minute Minecraft tech demo as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Did Gears 5 not use some sort of weird software RT or something, I thought someone said that to me before. I'll be happy to see the end of screen space. It's gotten more prevalent in games but also it's gotten more noticeable how the reflections get abruptly cut off behind the player character. Especially when sailing a boat in Witcher 3 on PC. RT is one of those things which isn't immediately impactful like HD or HDR but I think in this Watch Dogs benchmark just having the puddles reflect the scene adds lots of depth. (Whoof at not having 60fps at 4k on a 3090 without heavy DLSS tho) Screenspace would often mean the reflections behind some NPCs might not appear right and you would have it cut off at the sides of the screen. I just wonder if every game is going to lean in heavily on puddles and chrome surfaces everywhere for a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 3 hours ago, DisturbedSwan said: I think Ubisoft are one of the best studios for not having to crunch. Obviously they have other issues like the sexual harassment stuff but yeah I think for not having to crunch they're one of the best. Source I highly doubt that a game that was planned for November pre-Covid and is still coming out in November despite Covid was made without crunch. That just seems like an impossible scenario at this point considering all the delays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Maryokutai said: I highly doubt that a game that was planned for November pre-Covid and is still coming out in November despite Covid was made without crunch. That just seems like an impossible scenario at this point considering all the delays. WDL was due out a year ago and got delayed twice. Don't think it's impossible at all considering that extra dev time, even with COVID. All depends how quickly and efficiently Ubi adapted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I mentioned WD as the one exception where they probably didn't have to crunch. Valhalla never had its date changed (at least we presume it was always meant to come out this November) and I expect Immortals rebranding was decided before Covid as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Maryokutai said: I mentioned WD as the one exception where they probably didn't have to crunch. Valhalla never had its date changed (at least we presume it was always meant to come out this November) and I expect Immortals rebranding was decided before Covid as well. I get you, I just think we would've heard about it if there was any significant crunching going on is all I'm saying. Ubi aren't CDPR or ND, in terms of personnel they probably have the most out there so would be the least likely to have to crunch is all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DANGERMAN Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I'm amazed Fifa isn't launch for both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Watch dogs is overheating and crashing xboxes for some reason on a mission called '404'. Ironic a mission called after a server error is breaking machines. I feel like we see way more severe QA problems with games atm, or maybe it just feels like that to me after playing Avengers. Another possible covid impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, one-armed dwarf said: Watch dogs is overheating and crashing xboxes for some reason on a mission called '404'. Ironic a mission called after a server error is breaking machines. I feel like we see way more severe QA problems with games atm, or maybe it just feels like that to me after playing Avengers. Another possible covid impact. Which Xbox, Series X? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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one-armed dwarf Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Xbox One X https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-if-youre-getting-the-xbox-one-x-version-of-watch-dogs-legion-be-warned-the-campaign-is-broken-at-launch.314434/#post-49648660 https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-28-watch-dogs-legions-has-a-game-breaking-bug-on-xbox-one-x Random guess, it does that thing where the framerate runs unlocked on menus and gets really hot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Ah I see, not good. Fingers crossed a patch sorts it out, sucks for folks that pick it up tomorrow though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I don't envy those developers who have to get their games running on 7 (!) different consoles during this cross-gen phase. And that's only if they don't plan on bringing something to PC, Stadia or Switch. Wasn't the benefit of using and programming for a console usually that it's always the same box, no matter what? Imagine the Q&A process on these things. "Yes, you're now going to walk through the entire map in this game to check if the character doesn't fall through the floor. Oh, and you have to do it seven times. GLHF!" Well, I suppose that's where we are. Suddenly those increased prices for games don't sound so unreasonable anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Dolby Vision looks better IMO than HDR 10 on my OLED so good to see the Series X can use it for games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regemond Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Not really sure where else to put this, but it looks like EA are getting taken to task for their loot boxes in FIFA: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/dutch-judge-rules-that-ea-should-be-fined-e250k-every-week-until-it-removes-fifa-loot-boxes/ Quote The Netherlands Gaming Authority will be allowed to fine Electronic Arts €500,000 every week it sells loot boxes in FIFA Ultimate Team, after the feature was deemed in violation of gambling rules. The decision was approved by the court of The Hague on Thursday, following a lengthy legal battle between the Gaming Authority and EA. The independent body ruled in 2018 that FIFA’s Ultimate Team Packs mechanic was in violation of its Gambling Act, and suggested the weekly fine (up to a maximum of €10 million), which was then challenged by EA in court. A weekly €250,000 fine will be charged against both EA and its Swiss subsidiary, which is responsible for the sale of FIFA, for a total of €500,000 a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGERMAN Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Not sure if it's in the full article, but EA have appealed so they don't have to do anything for a while. They'll make millions in the mean time. Worth noting that the likes of Valve just stopped selling loot boxes in the Netherlands rather than go to court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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