DisturbedSwan Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 These reports were from owners on ResetEra who experienced these issues for themselves shortly after launch, I know these issues were magnified because of everyone getting this new console at the same time but yeah, it doesn’t mean that they don’t exist or were exaggerated. I honestly don’t know if things have been shored up since then, there have been a few firmware updates but I’m not sure they’ve directly addressed any of these potential issues. Just because we’ve all been lucky on here so far doesn’t mean other people haven’t had issues with at launch up to present day. I will say this again, but, just because I’m warning you of these things it doesn’t mean they’ll happen to you. It means it may put your system at greater risk of a potential issue, personally I’d rather avoid that until a firmware updates solves them but you do you etc. It’s your console, you can do what you like with it. For my own peace of mind I’d rather put the warnings out there and folks don’t have issues than stay quiet and someone has a problem. Listen to them or not, it’s your call at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 It’s been just over two months since launch, the firmware updates will come. The PS4 dash in January 2014 was probably similarly bare bones as the PS5 is right now. That being said, you can see what people are playing in your friends list, I too would like them to add back in the feature where you saw what trophies etc. Folks have picked up though, and an LFG/Community feature wouldn’t go amiss either. But yeah, neither are priorities in the scheme of things at the moment, things may take longer to roll out because of the Pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGERMAN Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I'd like them to sort the store out. At the minute It's "here's everything", I'd like sale section, even if it's just for the PS4 store, or just boot to the old store app for PS4 games for now until the PS5 shop has filled out a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I want to be able to hold the PS button to have the option to power off etc. like the PS4 does. Instead of having to scroll all the way to the right and press multiple buttons. Be nice if I could customise and choose what appeared on the bar which appears when I press the PS button too so I can easily access trophies - was a right pain when I was finishing Bugsnax and Astro. I know you can customise it at the moment but only with very limited options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Apparently a Deals section has been added the past couple of days but I’m yet to explore yet. @DANGERMAN Other things will get added in time. It’s extraordinary times at the moment. Aside from the features I mentioned in my previous post and maybe customisable backgrounds I’ve not got any grievances with the dash really, it’s still a bit bare bones but it’s been 2 months since launch and I still think it’s excellent overall. I’m a patient guy, I can wait, more features will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nag said: It's shit... just admit it. 6/10 total shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Medium thread is that way -> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Sure things will get added & yea it’s only been 2 months... but in a way it hasn’t just been 2 months. They did all the R&D through the PS3 and PS4 era’s. So it’s been years. They knew what worked (such as holding the PS button for power functions) and where it made logical sense to put options and allow customisation. So why have they gone backwards? You basically admit as much here. It was barebones, they fixed it and now gone back to bare bones again. The dash isn’t such a change whereby it must have been difficult to keep those features. 7 hours ago, DisturbedSwan said: The PS4 dash in January 2014 was probably similarly bare bones as the PS5 is right now. Exactly this- 7 hours ago, Nag said: features are missing in the first place, there's no real reason to rollback on functionality. Don’t know why but when companies ‘update’ stuff they always feel the need to make you have to do more button presses and go though more menus for the same options which uses to be only 1 or 2 presses away. It’s really annoying and backwards. Saying all this I think the new UI is visually nice and easy enough to use. But when we can highlight simple issues easily in the first couple of weeks of use why didn’t they while testing? Just irritating more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCH Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Which reminds me, I still haven't even looked at the store. Beyond the initial set-up and playing Demon's Souls, I haven't looked at anything yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 12 hours ago, mfnick said: Sure things will get added & yea it’s only been 2 months... but in a way it hasn’t just been 2 months. They did all the R&D through the PS3 and PS4 era’s. So it’s been years. They knew what worked (such as holding the PS button for power functions) and where it made logical sense to put options and allow customisation. So why have they gone backwards? You basically admit as much here. It was barebones, they fixed it and now gone back to bare bones again. The dash isn’t such a change whereby it must have been difficult to keep those features. Don’t know why but when companies ‘update’ stuff they always feel the need to make you have to do more button presses and go though more menus for the same options which uses to be only 1 or 2 presses away. It’s really annoying and backwards. Saying all this I think the new UI is visually nice and easy enough to use. But when we can highlight simple issues easily in the first couple of weeks of use why didn’t they while testing? Just irritating more than anything. All true, been in R&D for years for sure. I think the holding/non-holding of the PS button is just something we’ll all get used to in time though, it was a choice just like them changing the ‘accept’ button to X in Japan when it has been O since PS’ inception. They’re starting from scratch again with PS5, it’s a whole new console so they start from 1.0, PS4 has had updates added for over 7 years at this point. You can’t expect them to have 7 years worth of PS5 updates available in 2 months for PS5, it’s not realistic. I think it likely didn’t have much testing outside of internal R&D centres because of the Pandemic. Most of these issues will be solved in time, we’re in extraordinary circumstances at the moment where most workplaces are still working from home or with a socially distanced staff, things will roll out a little slower than they otherwise would do. I do stress again, it has been 2 months, Rome wasn’t built in a day. I’ve got things I want to see added but I don’t have any issues with the UI, it’s clean, quick and simple which is the best kind of UI for me, it’s why I love the Switch UI. A UI falls down when it is needlessly cumbersome and complicated for me, so I’ll take bare bones over the confusing mess of other UIs I’ve experienced over the years. I actually think you might like Returnal @OCH as its got Roguelike elements to it and I remember you loving Binding of Isaac, not out until April though. Once Hades comes to PS that would be a very ‘you’ game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCH Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, DisturbedSwan said: Once Hades comes to PS that would be a very ‘you’ game as well. Thanks, but I mentioned elsewhere. I can't even watch Hades, let alone play it. Just watching it on YouTube gave me headaches and made my eyes water like crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCH Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 The good old days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Nag said: Nobody is expecting 7 years worth of updates in 2 months... but then again we shouldn't be expecting whole parts of a UI to be missing either This. The new UI isn’t even that different so it’s not exactly a great excuse for them to have removed functionality and QOL improvements made previously. Surely when building the new interface you do it with these improvements in mind. Not like theyre starting from scratch. They sorted all this on the PS4 so why go backwards? Again. It’s not bad, still think I prefer it to Xbox UI, but it just baffles me why they’ve gone backwards so much & is how stupid some of the decisions seem to have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maryokutai Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Mine's always funny on PS4: The little bars at the end with the preferred weekdays are a cool idea though. For me it was Sunday evening. I think with any other system it would have been Saturday afternoon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiofloyd Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Maryokutai is your native language French? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Sony Q3 FY2020 (Oct-Dec) Results - PS5: 4.5m, PS4: 1.4m (LTD: 114.9m) / Record Year for PlayStation / Highest Quarterly Revenue in video game history Quote *The US Dollar figures have been converted from Japanese Yen with exchange rate provided in Sony fiscal reportsSource 1 / Source 2As mentioned in the poll, spending on PS Store include Games & Add-on content (DLC/MTX/etc...) but no Services (as PS+/PS Now)You can change your vote if you made a mistakeMajor records broken / milestones reached this quarter or year by PlayStation :(most of these below have a dedicated graph later in the thread) PlayStation reached an all-time high of $8.45B Revenue in a single quarter, a new record for the industry Previous biggest quarterly revenue was Sony Q3 FY18 with ¥790.6bn (= $7.00B) A jump by +11.7% from previous biggest quarterly revenue First time, any platform holder ever reached $8 Billion in a single quarter PlayStation reached an all-time high of 22.74B Revenue in 2020 and set a new record for the industry Previous record was Sony 2018 with $20.43B Revenue The second time PlayStation broke the $20B barrier Only PlayStation ever generated more than $18.5B Revenue in a single calendar year, let alone $20B PlayStation generated $3.33B Profits in 2020, a new record for them (despite the launch of a new hardware) First time, they broke the $3B barrier Previous most profitable year was 2018 with $2.41B Profits PlayStation 5 sold-in 4.5m units, matching PS4's record launch PlayStation Network reached an all-time high of $5.06B Revenue in Q3 FY20 (Oct-Dec) ; +35.4% YoY Previous record was $4.53B Revenue in Q1 FY20 (April-June 2020) PlayStation Network reached an all-time high of $16.44B Revenue in 2020 (+28.9% YoY) Previous record was $12.52B Revenue in 2018 PlayStation Software & Services reached an all-time high of $5.54B Revenue in Q3 FY20 (Oct-Dec) ; +34.0% YoY Previous record was $4.89B Revenue in Q1 FY20 (April-June 2020) PlayStation Software & Services reached an all-time high of $18.49B Revenue in 2020 (+30.1% YoY) Previous record was $14.61B Revenue in 2018 Highlights : Over $8.45B Revenue and $0.767B Profit between October-December 2020 (Q3 FY20) Biggest Revenue ever for PlayStation (and for any platform holder) during any quarter Top 3 biggest Quarterly Revenue ever: Sony Q3 FY20 Sony Q3 FY18 Sony Q3 FY17 To show how big Revenue are, during this one single quarter (Q3 FY20) Revenue are higher than : any full fiscal year during PS1 generation (FY95 to FY99) 3 full fiscal year during PS2 generation (FY00/03/04) 4 full fiscal year during PS3 generation (FY09 to FY12) (A graph later in the thread will show you that) 2nd best Operating Profit ever for PlayStation during Q3 6th best Operating Profit ever for PlayStation during any quarter Best Operating Profit ever for PlayStation during a launch hardware quarter PS1 : no numbers but most likely not profitable PS2 : ¥26.0bn ($245M) loss [Jan-Mar 2000] / ¥13.9bn ($245M) loss [Oct-Dec 2000] PS3 : ¥54.2bn ($464M) loss [Oct-Dec 2006] / ¥107.8bn ($910M) loss [Jan-Mar 2007] PS4 : ¥12.4bn ($123M) profits [Oct-Dec 2013] PS5 : ¥50.0bn ($767M) profits [Oct-Dec 2020] Hardware: PS5 : 4.5m units sold-in Biggest console launch in video game history, matching PS4's 4.5m units PS4 : 1.4m units sold-in (LTD: 114.9m) Software: PS4/PS5 : 103.7m games sold-in including 18.4m Sony-published games 17.7% of total PS5 games sold this Q3 PS4/PS5 Software digital ratio : 53% PlayStation Store had its biggest Revenue ever during Q3 with more than $4.14B (+41.9% YoY) including Digital Software & Add-on content PlayStation Software & Services saw their biggest Revenue ever during Q3 with more than $5.54B (+34.0% YoY) including Physical / Digital Software & Add-on content / Services 114m MAU (monthly active users) 114m active users each spent about $113.89 on average on PS Store in 2020 It includes Digital Software + Add-on but no Services revenue That average spending grew +26.3% YoY Biggest yearly average spending per active user ever recorded on PS Store FY2020 Updated Forecast : $25.53B Revenue & $3.30B Profit... it would be: Biggest Revenue for PlayStation (and for any platform holder) in video game history Best Operating Profit ever for PlayStation Sony Revenue : ¥2696.5bn / $25.80B (+9.5% YoY from ¥2463.2bn / $22.64B - Q3 FY2019)Sony Operating Profit : ¥359.2bn / $3.44B (+19.7% YoY from ¥300.1bn / $2.76B - Q3 FY2019)Sony Net Profit : ¥371.9bn / $3.56B (+62.0% YoY from ¥229.5bn / $2.11B - Q3 FY2019) 2nd biggest Revenue ever for Sony during any quarter 2nd biggest Op. Profit ever for Sony during any quarter 3rd biggest Net Profit ever for Sony during any quarter (2nd biggest ever during Q3) SPOILER: Q3 FY20 CONSOLIDATED RESULTS Revenue & Profit Breakdown by SegmentSome milestones reached, per segment : Music : Best Revenue and 2nd best Op. Profit ever during any quarter Imaging & Sensing Solutions : 2nd best Revenue and 3rd best Op Profit ever during Q3 Financial Services : Best Revenue ever during Q3 (2nd best ever during any quarter) Top Biggest Revenue Drivers for the Quarter : PlayStation Electronic Products & Solutions Financial Services Imaging & Sensing Solutions Music Pictures Gaming Revenue : ¥883.2bn / $8.45B (+39.7% YoY from ¥632.1bn / $5.81B - Q3 FY2019)Gaming Operating Profit : ¥80.2bn / $0.767B (+50.0% YoY from ¥53.5bn / $0.491B - Q3 FY2019) Best Revenue ever for PlayStation (and for any platform holder) during any quarter +39.7% YoY from Q3 FY2019 which is the 6th biggest Quarterly Revenue for any platform holder in video game history 2th best Operating Profit ever for PlayStation during Q3 6th best Operating Profit ever for PlayStation during any quarter Best Operating Profit ever for PlayStation during a launch hardware quarter On a constant currency basis, Revenue increased +40.7% YoY and Op. Profit increased +32.4% YoYThis quarter, the Gaming Division accounts for :- 32.8% of Sony total Sales/Revenue (vs 25.7% - Q3 FY2019)- 22.0% of Sony total Operating Profit (vs 18.9% - Q3 FY2019)PlayStation 4/PlayStation 5PS4 Hardware Q3 : 1.4m (LTD: 114.9m)PS5 Hardware Q3 : 4.5mPS4/PS5 Software Q3 : 103.7m including 18.4m Sony-published gamesSoftware digital ratio : 53% During this quarter, more than 13.05 PS4/PS5 games have been sold each second in the world (= 1.127M games sold each day) More than 597 000 digital PS4/PS5 games have been sold-through each day on average on the PlayStation Store during Q3 (= 6.91 digital games sold each second) PlayStation PlusSubscribers : 47.4m (up from 38.8m - Q3 FY2019) All-time high number of PS+ subscribers +8.6m subs year-on-year (achieved the 3rd biggest increase YoY in raw numbers) Revenue Breakdown (Q3 FY20) : Hardware Revenue reached ¥239.5bn / $2.29B (+61.3% YoY) the highest since Q3 FY17 Physical Software Revenue reached ¥50.9bn / $0.487B (+20.8% YoY) Digital Software + Add-on Revenue (PS Store) reached an all-time high of ¥432.8bn / $4.14B (+41.9% YoY) the biggest quarterly revenue PS Store ever recorded Services Revenue reached an ¥95.8bn / $0.916B (+12.0% YoY) the 2nd biggest quarterly revenue ever generated by Services Others Revenue (PSVR, controllers...) reached ¥64.2bn / $0.615B (+25.7% YoY) driven by the PS5's accessories (DualSense, ....) PS5 sold-in 4.5m units, same than PS4 during its launch quarter For its 29th quarter on the market, PS4 reached 114.9m units sold-in and is tracked behind PS2's 118.4m at the same point Much more info available at the link at the top of the post, including tons of charts and graphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, radiofloyd said: Maryokutai is your native language French? No, but some of these platforms (the eShop as well) default to French as I'm living in Luxembourg. For some reason companies believe it's the official language here. Native language would be Luxembourgish, which is basically a mutated version of German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroed Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Lockdown lyfe. Only FF7R is me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 How did you guys get these wrap ups? Can’t find mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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