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Ooh, I like that set up, actually. Looks cool. 
 

22 minutes ago, DANGERMAN said:

How are we in the situation that the 2 people who have never used a computer before have state of the art cards, but me and Spatular are stuck with old cards 😤

 

On that, Spatular has talked me in to a new CPU in the next couple of months 


You all fronting and posing not real master race elite gamers like me and @Metroid66

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6 minutes ago, Maf said:

You all fronting and posing not real master race elite gamers like me and @Metroid66

 True story 😄

 

What I wasn't expecting was the sheer graphical upgrade. I mean, I was playing Far Cry 3 last night maxed out. What that, about 13 years old? It wasn't GoW Ragnarok, but it wasn't far off!

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Yeah RGB is pretty annoying, a lot of the third party hardware vendors out there are still of the view I guess that it's mainly teenagers with tons of money buying these things, not everyone wants the lights popping off the whole time

 

On my own PC I only have one light now, the one on the GPU. There's a thing called OpenRGB which interfaces with all the stupid proprietary RGB implementations the different vendors have, but I've never figured out how to make it 'permanent'.

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So I ended up with the 4070 super which, since I'm on 6Ohz television, might be overkill. For motherboard I've got the MSI B760 PRO-P DDR4 WiFi/Bluetooth, and the CPU is the i5 14600KF - 14 Cores 5.3GHz.

 

Looking forward to seeing how it handles the pc version of PoP Sands of Time that I've just bought for a nicker on green man.

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11 hours ago, Metroid66 said:

 True story 😄

 

What I wasn't expecting was the sheer graphical upgrade. I mean, I was playing Far Cry 3 last night maxed out. What that, about 13 years old? It wasn't GoW Ragnarok, but it wasn't far off!


Man the power of pristine resolution and what it can do for a game is amazing

 

This is why when people immediately started negging the PS5 Pro I was like hold up. I’ve been saying for ages consoles need to get DLSS or something like it and now PSSR is happening it’s going to be a big deal for consoles

 

Since console games don’t really go above 60 it’s even more important that frame gen imo

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^ assuming amd will bring similar to pc’s it’ll be good for competition there too.

 

10 hours ago, Metroid66 said:

i5 14600KF


oh yeah if you haven’t already remember to update the motherboard bios because of the recent intel problems. Not sure if this is the latest on it

 

https://community.intel.com/t5/Blogs/Tech-Innovation/Client/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop-Instability-Root-Cause/post/1633446#M40

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32 minutes ago, spatular said:


oh yeah if you haven’t already remember to update the motherboard bios

When I find out what that means I'll do it😄

 

3 hours ago, Maf said:

Man the power of pristine resolution and what it can do for a game is amazing

 

I quite like playing old games, not retro exactly, but ps2-3/xbox era. It sounds strange but collecting and playing those games with good resolution and nice frame rates, plus refinements via the modding community, is what brought me to pc. The problem with consoles is that they're necessarily preoccupied with their specific generation, so old games get neglected to a certain extent. And the development cycle is so long these days that current gen libraries seem insanely threadbare. A bit of a premature assertion but, outside of Nintendo, I pretty much think (and hope) I've bought my last console.

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Yeah definitely do that thing spatular said. There's some weird voltage stuff with newer intels which need a bios patch 

 

Updating bios is easy, but scary cause your pc can get fucked if it power cuts out while doing it😨 

 

12 minutes ago, Metroid66 said:

The problem with consoles is that they're necessarily preoccupied with their specific generation, so old games get neglected to a certain extent. And the development cycle is so long these days that current gen libraries seem insanely threadbare

 

Yeah definitely, on consoles its always new stuff or you have to get expensive remasters. On PC it's sort of like automatically having the criterion collection edition of an old game whenever you upgrade

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Becoming an elite master race gamer has been taking its toll. I've haven't been able to stop buying classic games to see how good they look on my new pc, especially games that disappointed when I excitedly bought them on XSX thinking that the console would magically boost them, for example GTA 4, and Prince of Persia forgotten Sands, which are still a shite on Xbox.

 

As you can imagine, put through a 4070 super they're feckin' killer.

 

 

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I'm struggling to understand dlss.

 

So I have Witcher 3, and there are numerous settings. Should I set resolution to 4k and then turn on dlss, to have higher graphic settings, or should I set resolution to 1080p then turn on dlss to upscale to the resolution of the TV?

 

I've tried googling this, before anyone says Google it 😀

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Display resolution is what the image will build up to, and DLSS upscales from a fraction of that resolution to a higher one. You want to set your games to 4K (or whatever your monitor supports) and set DLSS to the best image/performance ratio. 

 

'Performance' mode is good on a 4k screen. A little soft and imprecise, but it's what I used for Cyberpunk 2077. I think on 'performance' mode it's building from 1080p up to 4k. But if you set the screen to 1080p, then it'll build from like 540p or something and look like AI sludge

 

Tbh, it's not very well indicated in most games. Control tries to make it less ambiguous by having a 'render' resolution and display resolution and explaining what each means. Now most other games do it in a console like fashion, which can be annoying cause you don't know what the 'render' resolution is anymore

 

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So I got the resolution to 4k and dlss on balanced. Ultra graphics on, and the game looked truly staggering, maybe the best Ive seen.

 

Turned on rt, and wasn't really sure what I was supposed to be seeing. Looked the same to me. Turned on rt ultra, still no difference, but my frame rate was definitely compromised. 

 

Maybe it's just an old game and they've tacked on ray tracing for this edition. Not really getting it tbh. I'll try it on something newer, when I find a new game that interests me. 

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In Witcher, RT is more about fixing strange inaccuracies that keep it looking a bit dated. Global illumination changes how objects in the environment get shaded cause the light bounces between them and causes them to blend together a bit more. Shadows are improved. Sometimes it makes a game look as good as the backgrounds in Resident Evil remake, like it's pre rendered, which is what I like most aboout it

 

Cyberpunk is a much better demonstration of RT I think, partly cause the game is in first person so you are already in close inspection mode for these fairly subtle changes that transform an image but only in combination with each other. In Witcher, you move past it too quickly to take in the micro details at times. RT is also way more efficient in Cyberpunk than Witcher for some reason

 

I don't know that landscape shots would show improvements that much, maybe it would I dunno. I usually find it more impactful with interiors for some reason. Like, try going into a pub in Witcher and turn it off and on if you're curious

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