hinn888 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I swear my worked colleague did it when i told him i got scammed, he always used his card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Rang up MS, they've started the investigation. Advised me not to remove the credit card yet as they'll need it for returning the money. He looked at my buying history and I still have the 4000 odd points on there, none spent, just GoD games bought on the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Reflex Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Worrying. I think it's just a matter of time before everyone I know gets done. What horse shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinn888 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I never knew what they changed it to, they sent a password reset to the e-mail you gave them. So just keep an eye on that and change it as soon as it arrives, they don't tell you otherwise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Me changing the password? I was in work when I got the emails confirming the purchases so the only thing I could think of doing was change the hotmail password, which I have done, but signing into my 360 never asked me for the new password. Unless that's because mine is set to be open for me, anyone else downloading my tag would have to use the new password I guess. Never mind, you meant Hinn after the investigation was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illdog Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Im desperately trying to remove my card from my Xbox account and i cant because its tied in to my misses account too. So i log in to hers and every time i remove it an error occors when trying to turn automatic renewal off. This is fucking infuriating. If this happens to me in the short time and my account gets hacked im going to seriously think about my future with Microsoft. Nag, did you change your password to Xbox live recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illdog Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Ive actually just started playing Fifa 12 so ive not been haxored. Nag, want me to send it you at some point? Its pretty easy to get about another 80 points without playing any football? More if you can play a few games. There's a guide on TA that can talk you through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Reflex Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I don't know why they don't just reset the gamerscore on that game so you can delete it off your card. They should be able to do something like that, I know it's not something all of us would want on our online ID's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomahawk Rob Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'm a bit confused by all this... Are these twats using some security flaw in FIFA12 to gain access to accounts, or are they doing that through other means but spending our points/cash on FIFA12 DLC? I just tried the card removal method that Hinn menntioned - didn't work for me, so I'll give them a call after work... Just browsing some of the support pages on xbox.com, and came across an option for 'live support chat'. I've never noticed this on xbox.com before, but I guess it might come in handy... And just out of interest, you guys that have been hacked already... how secure were your original passwords? Were they alphanumeric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboxy Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I was also wondering that as well. Also, is your password the same as what you use on forums or any other website that might not be as secure. Some one might have got hold of an SQL dump from another website and matching usernames to passwords on XBL. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGERMAN Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 TRob - They use your card/points to buy Ultimate Team packs (fifa) which they then sell on ebay (with Hendo it was Games on Demand), I'm not sure what happens with your account, whether they download your profile on to another 360 to get to the money or sell the profile too (I think the former). There isn't likely to be a problem with Fifa because I don't think anyone in this thread has the game, so it wont have their details. It could get in through EA profiles conceivably, but that requires you to A. have an xbox, B. have signed in to EA's servers, and C. use the same details for that and xbox @Jimbo, I think it is that, I suspect a Microsoft site has been hacked, or possibly the data stolen more directly, there doesn't seem to be any correlation beyond Microsoft themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Reflex Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Is it not an exploit on MS' site where you can recover a profile that doesn't belong to you? You can basically keep guessing until you are in, then it's just a case of hijacking that shit and doing what you want with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGERMAN Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 They've closed that though, and my understanding was that it was reasonably time consuming and you only got 5 attempts (or 7 or something, it'll be at the start of the thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craymen Edge Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Is it not an exploit on MS' site where you can recover a profile that doesn't belong to you? You can basically keep guessing until you are in, then it's just a case of hijacking that shit and doing what you want with it. I saw a video showing how a hacker could get control of your profile back, having accessed it before - due to some of the information required on the Windows live recovery page being info you can view and note down from the xbox dashboard. I think it's a mixture of phishing & social engineering, making use of weaknesses in account recovery processes and possibly shitty call centre staff. I also wonder if it's got anything to do with the spate of gaming sites & services hacked last year yielding loads of emails and usernames/tags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Reflex Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Is anyone here that has been hacked part of these networks though? I'm struggling to see any connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambob Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Is anyone here that has been hacked part of these networks though? I'm struggling to see any connections. I find it VERY odd that so many people from such a small site have been hacked. Thats a crazy hit rate for this hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craymen Edge Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Is anyone here that has been hacked part of these networks though? Steam? PSN? Various other gaming sites. I'll guess yes. How many people use the same email address for these? How many use their gamertags on multiple sites/services? Who knows if it's related, but if there are a bunch of email addresses and potential userames out there of people u know are gamers, it might be a starting place. But I think the most important lesson we need to take from this sorry affair, is that all people who play football games are terrible human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboxy Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Is anyone here that has been hacked part of these networks though? I'm struggling to see any connections. I find it VERY odd that so many people from such a small site have been hacked. Thats a crazy hit rate for this hack. This is what I'm talking about. If it was more widely spread I imagine we would be hearing more about it. I don't use any other forums, so don't know how many other people are effected, but it does seem weird that so many of use have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGERMAN Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 there's a massive thread on neogaf about it, in fact there's a thread about it on the football forum I post on somewhere (not seen it in a while). It's well known in gaming circles but you're average person probably doesn't take their console online, and if they do might not use their card/have never purchased anything. I think it made the Sun a few months back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illdog Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Ok, this is getting scary. Another question then, those that have been hit so far, did you change your Live ID password after Sibernet's warning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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