Metaphor: ReFantazio

[mfnick]

Madness! The P5 UI is one of the greatest ever. I fucking love it and this is very similar which is a very good thing. 
 

I won’t be playing the demo, already know I want it. 1st day for me. 

[Maryokutai]

I have that issue with ghosting text when looking around after reading white on black as well, but never had that issue with P5. As said P5 was just a tad overwhelming but I do kind of like the style of it. And considering that at some point muscle memory kicks in and you don't have to read the text anyway, I'd say I also prefer something that looks nice over, say, classic FF white-on-blue textboxes. 

 

It might be a more serious issue for people who are colourblind or have other eye-related problems, so maybe Atlus should look at accessibility options if they continue down with those overly stylised designs.

[Maf]

Damn you can pre-order this game for £30 on PC 

 

[Maf]

 

Only 24 reviews so far, but still

[radiofloyd]

Gamespot - 10

PC Gamer - 95%

IGN - 9

Eurogamer - 5/5

 

Polygon - Recommended

RockPaperShotgun

[Maf]

Oh, this game is that WOKE kinda woke. This is going to be great

 

 

[DANGERMAN]

Hopefully they have a word with whoever writes the Persona games 

[mfnick]

Already got my pre-order but still good to see the high scores!

 

Good for my Fantasy Critic too. 

[HandsomeDead]

1 hour ago, DANGERMAN said:

Hopefully they have a word with whoever writes the Persona games 

 

I think there is good stuff in Persona but after finishing P5 this year Morgana getting possessed by Ayn Rand at the end took me out a bit.

[DisturbedSwan]

Would love to play this but it’s going to be long isn’t it

[Maf]

I’ve seen people say 75+ hours. No context if that’s the main game, 100%, normal paced, player skill 

 

How Long To Beat hasn’t been updated yet, either 

 

https://howlongtobeat.com/game/129956

[one-armed dwarf]

It's hard to get a sense from the reviews what makes it stand out from Persona. 

 

Sounds like this puts in a solid performance at 30fps on Steam Deck, which seems like it matters here cause I doubt many want to play a 100 hour JRPG solely at their desktop if they have a choice. 

 

https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/16405-metaphor-refantazio-full-game-steam-deck-performance-review-pc-port

 

I'm going to wait and see what others say later, I'm just a bit wary that a lot of the reviews are coming from people who already love Persona and I'd like to hear some takes from people who are maybe a bit more jaded by that formula at this point. It does sound cool, but I want to spend less money in general and it takes a long time to get into games like this as they're quite slow up front

[Maf]

I’ve seen a few reviewers say it’s like the culmination of Persona. So it is that, but excellent. Not sure if there’s any huge twists (outside the story/setting)

 

Think Jason Schrier had a tweet saying it’s Persona with a job system 

[one-armed dwarf]

It's a good thing there's a demo, so the only thing I would spend is time if I needed to try it.

 

I just sort of try to avoid getting swept away by massive review scores now cause that's led to disappointment and frustration before, but I wanted to call out specifically what a good practice it is now by Atlus and Square to do these prologue demos. I hope it's something that catches on. 

 

In a way it might need to, given how some AAA games are struggling to catch attention.

[mfnick]

The high scores have me worried for the totally opposite reason. I can’t see them giving that kind of score to a turn based Persona+ experience - which is exactly what I want. I’m worried there’s a huge innovation in here somewhere which warrants the higher scores that I’m going to hate. I just want an old school JRPG with decent production values. 

[one-armed dwarf]

P5 Royale has a 95 Metacritic tho

 

I think you underestimate the appetite right now for fully turn based RPG, it's the combat driven RPG that's becoming seen to be more passe nowadays I think, it's swinging back around

[Maf]

Oh, this game is that PERSONA kinda Persona. This is going to be great

 

[Nag]

Just looked at the Eurogamer technical review of this and it sounds bad... is this how reviews work now? A game with shocking technical performance can still receive 5 star reviews? 

 

Imagine if car reviews worked like that... looks beautiful, has nice comfy seats but won't go in to 5th gear and misfires constantly... 5 stars!

[one-armed dwarf]

DF are far more exacting of things like that though, and the review was a different person. A car fucking up isn't the same as a game having framespikes and stuff

 

That said, I did think the demo looked kinda horrible with all the motion blur and vignettes. Game seems like it would be good for triggering some migraines if you play it too long

 

Also the guy says this at the end so it's a bit more nuanced

 

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But I still think Metaphor: ReFantazio is very much worth playing if you do enjoy - or think you'd enjoy - Persona-style games, as I think Atlus' latest RPG is excellent. It's just that to best enjoy it, you need to carefully navigate a range of platform and display choices, each of which come with their own tradeoffs.

 

[one-armed dwarf]

Launch trailer, with a Radiohead cover 

 

 

Horny guy giving Griffith vibes

 

Nevermind, the trailer is gone.