one-armed dwarf Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Figure I'd put it here than keep posting about it in other thread Look the box looks really nice 4k 60 on Pro, guess we'll see if that's native and doesnt drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I wish I could be more excited about it. I will still probably buy it in the vain hope it helps the chances of a Vanquish sequel and I can still say I own every console version of Bayonetta but these are not exactly the reasonings of an excited fan. Hopefully it’s -£30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyKurosaki Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I love Bayonetta, so I’m definitely up for this. Vanquish was a bloody fun game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 PS4 PRO gameplay I played some Bayo on PC the other day, that game does not look good anymore. Vanquish will always suck. But having Bayo on PS4 is nice I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, one-armed dwarf said: Vanquish will always suck. I can’t remember a time when you’ve been more wrong. I mean there are many times to pick from but this might be the peak of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Well consider me salty that this isn't a Bayo & MGR bundle #fuckonami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I’ve still got a £40 voucher left over for Christmas I was thinking of buying this with, but that will very much depend on DF’s tech breakdown to see if it’s worth it. I’ve played these games to death, own 5 copies of Bayonetta and 2 copies of Vanquish. These remasters are going to have to be amazing for this to be a day 1 for me, and I just don’t think they will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeDead Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I don't know how they could improve them without new assets and stuff since they run really we as is. There isn't much to improve. Nice to have Vanquish available on a current gen console at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I’m not going to pretend I know how games are made but I really think that just remastering it for 4K60 is kind of weak. It’s not unwelcome, but I’ve played these games so many times before that at this point I need more than that. Even if not full on remakes these games are a decade old, there must be more they can do to make this a great release. But the combo pack kind of says it all, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 I suppose they could add new modes and options like DMC3 switch is getting. But Bayo combat is sort of linear for that type of improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyKurosaki Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I really enjoyed Vanquish back in the day. Bayonetta is bloody awesome, I came close to getting all the achievements on the Xbox 360 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 1440p 60 frames, not 4K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Garbage ass garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 With a game as old as Bayonetta does 4K even offer much? There's not a lot of detail there that can't be fully seen at 1080p even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 I imagine it improves image quality but it feels like it would be majorly diminishing returns for games which have low texture resolution/details but are impacted very hard by performance. Anyway this is probably still the best console version of Bayo. Bayo 1 on 360 has screen tear and is pretty rubbish on PS3 and Switch imo due to how the combat just goes in slow motion when framerate drops (fighting any enemy that's on fire with fire gauntlets on switch handheld mode is miserable.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 TL;DWPrevious versions:- 360: 720p w/ Adaptive AA- WiiU: 720p w/ V-Sync enabled. Basically the same as 360 w/ slightly more input latency because of V-Sync- XBO BC version: 720p with improved texture filtering, no performance drops.- PC version was very well optimized for low end hardware as well (1GB GPUs)- Switch: Basically the WiiU version (720p with smoother frame rate)New release:- Base PS4/XBO: 1080p with improved texture filtering over 360.- PS4 Pro / XBX: 1440p. DF are surprised neither version goes for native 4K. They think 1440p was chosen to maintain absolute performance consistency.- The only difference is in the gamma curve. Xbox consoles appear darker.- No AO featured from PC version though the PC implementation was so subtle it was barely notable.- Shadows resolution also not refined as the highest PC settings.- HUD/Fonts use native 4K resolution on Pro/X.Performance:- 360 version would drop to 40's in intense battles with a lot of tearing. But most other battles are much better.- WiiU similar to 360 without tearing and can drop more performance.- XBO BC version, PC version etc were really solid at maintaining performance.- New release basically performance is rock solid with maybe 1, 2 skipped frames noticed on Pro in entire capture time.- Cut-scenes capped at 30 FPS with some minor frame pacing issues on both PlayStation platforms. Xbox consoles don't have frame pacing issues.- 360 version still feels like it has the fastest controller response because of adaptive V-Sync.- The PS3 version has always sucked and continues to suck.- The Vanquish port's video is coming soon.- Can confirm it targets 60 FPS as the base, not as flawless as Bayonetta but looking very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I want to know how the new releases on Xbox holds up against the back compat versions on Xbox. I bought Vanquish on 360 for £3 something a month or so before this was announced. If it is super better than fair enough but if it is regular better then why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 With Bayonetta it's probably not a big difference but as Vanquish only ever ran at 30fps on 360 this port will obviously play a lot smoother at its targeted 60fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maf Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Was going to buy Vanquish but bought a pizza instead. 60 slices a second, oh, well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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