one-armed dwarf Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 So I started this, played like a 2 hours or so. It's very anime. It's also way more action RPG than you might expect. Combat is fast but grounded and overall your options seem pretty limited early on anyway. Kind of like Nier Automata. Attack, dodge, attack, dodge etc. So far. I've not fully worked it out yet. It's hard to learn so far cause theres a lot going on the screen at once and the frame rate is pretty bad. It's got a cool style though. It makes me roll my eyes when people say "X is like Bladerunner" , but this is like that. But anime and not as dark. Your "legion" does it's own thing usually, but you can leash it around and have it counters attacks while your cop guy or girl does his own thing too. Like if you see a red beam on the ground then it's a tell for a charge attack. You send your legion over and you can catch them before it hits. Stuff like that seems like it could be cool. But honestly so far it's pretty mashy and hard to follow. The frame rate is a killer. I am getting D ranks tho so my rubbishness is definitely a factor Mission 2 boss is cool though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I like it, but not as much as I thought I would. The game is very hand holdey, after about 4 hours I got to what I would say was the first proper level. I've got the second Pokemon now but haven't had a chance to use it yet. I'm just playing on casual so no ranking. The game was like, play on casual and I was like yeah sure, whatever. I might go back and replay levels to get the grade since I think that's their intention anyway. Especially since parts of levels are locked off because the player doesn't have the correct Legatus. Most of the level XP seems to be tied to blasting through as quickly as possible as well. I like the story. Everyone is so pretty and serious. Except for some dickhead that dressed up like a dog and followed me for half an hour. Plus there are hidden toilets in the levels and you get various types of toilet paper to give to a toilet fairy. Everything else is incredibly serious and Japanese though, I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I have this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I’m trying to remain positive but this game is proving very hard to like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 I'm conflicted. It's full of dumb things that make me feel like this is stupid universe version of NGE (Neuron is Nerv, the ghost doggo things are Eva's.) I like the PS2-ness of it. But find it annoying in other ways to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I think there’s a cool game here if I could just work out what the fuck to do. I’ve only finished file 2 on PT Normal and got D ranks on every fight. In some cases I feel like I’m missing a mechanic. The first boss you fight in Hell world took so long I’m sure I wasn’t doing it right. Also all the enemies do the same trick where they flash when they’re about to attack, and then stop for a brief moment while you dodge and attack after. It’s so obvious what the game is doing but It’s just too instinctual to not move immediately. Add the delay between the two dodge rolls, enemies having multiple attacks to dodge in a row - so even if you get it right the first time whoops, here are two more. And then every now and then an enemy will attack immediately instead of waiting. I get it, it’s a knowledge thing. You play the game a lot you get used to it. But the tricks are so blatant and anti player it’s not very enjoyable so far. It’s not like a Bayonetta where it’s trying to make the player better it’s just preying on player weakness and eh. Also I really dislike the character designs for both the humans and the monsters. But I’m super into the way the world looks and the music is quite cool so some upside. I don’t know, I haven’t wrote it off yet but I’m not too far away. I’ll play some more to see if it clicks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmark Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Did you go through all the training @Maf or bin it off? Have you just been dodging or countering the attacks? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I did all the training and have been unsuccessfully trying to dodge and counter attacks. I haven’t played any further yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellow Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Noob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 Countering is tripping fools right, that easy peezy. Even bellow could do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 No, countering is attacking after perfect dodge you knucklehead. Tripping is easy. I’m wondering after I was tripping that hell world boss if I should of tied him up after and that would of done more damage? That fight took forever. I also had no idea how to dodge his laser attacks either. Like I did a few times but I had no idea what I was doing. The dodging in this game most reminds me of the knife guys in Batman. It’s just really awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Also just an aside, I really, really dislike the idea of the Legions and why they fight and what not. The designer of the game said it was inspired by Pokemon and he really likes that series. But Pokemon doesn’t involve putting chains around things necks and dressing them in battle armour and use as slaves to slay their own species. Pokemon choose to go with the trainer, if they don’t they break out of the ball. Like this is not the same at all. Abstract enough to not be disturbing but still an entirely unlikeable concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 I think its trying to evoke EVA. That scene at the beginning in particular Edit, in fact Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellow Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, one-armed dwarf said: Countering is tripping fools right, that easy peezy. Even bellow could do that Damn right I could Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I give up. At the beginning of mission 3 they want you to go back to the training room. I got up to the MGR slow down slash attack thing and gave up. I just don’t like the combat in this game at all. I knew a character action game with an AI partner would be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroed Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I must be playing a different game to you as I'm on File 03 and absolutely loving it. Stylish as hell with a great soundtrack, and I'm enjoying the combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 Well if Maf hates it I should definitely play it some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I don’t hate it it’s just not for me. Combat wise nothing this game wants to do are things I think are very interesting at all. I really like the game apart from the gameplay, the story and the graphics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 Tbh, its not quite what I expected either. Its having me do lots of side quests and fetch quests to forward the game. Very boring stuff. I bet the fighting is alright, I had no real problem with V. It's just the other stuff is a big obstacle. The Heavy Rain stuff is completely unexpected and something which will stop me from playing this game if every mission has it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 See i’m completely onboard with all that stuff. Maybe it gets old but the music in the police HQ is amazing (And reminds me heavily of Persona 3 which is big bonus points in my book) and just the look of the world is so nice. The colours are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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