Maf Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Blacklist is the best Splinter Cell and the 6th best stealth based action game of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikzilla Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Maf said: Blacklist is the best Splinter Cell and the 6th best stealth based action game of all time Yeah Blacklist is the perfect mix between Conviction and Chaos Theory. Out of curiosity what are the other five best? And don't be a smart arse and list all the MGS games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 MGS The Last of Us Mark of the Ninja MGS3 Dishonored Splinter Cell Blacklist I would also maybe make an argument for the first Batman game but I’m not sure that’s stealth based as much as a 3D Metroidvania with strong stealth elements 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCH Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 No Hitman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 In 38th place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCH Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, Maf said: In 38th place Hitman, in particular Blood Money, is the ultimate stealth game. The highest ranking in Hitman means no one even knew you were there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiofloyd Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 No Sheep Dog N’ Wolf? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, radiofloyd said: No Sheep Dog N’ Wolf? Fuck, that’s a game I haven’t thought about in a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 TLOU has abysmal stealth. I'd definitely put Hitman above it, or Thief The older Tenchu games had poor AI but excellent stealth tools, would rate that one above it as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikzilla Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 48 minutes ago, radiofloyd said: No Sheep Dog N’ Wolf? That game was sooooo good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Stop questioning the list it is unquestionably perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Split this off to try and keep the SC news on topic. Also, it’s a good subject. For stealth I love the Hitman reboot and Mark of the Ninja the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisturbedSwan Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 15 hours ago, Maf said: MGS The Last of Us Mark of the Ninja MGS3 Dishonored Splinter Cell Blacklist I can’t decide on exact positions but my list off the top of my head would be: Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory Splinter Cell Splinter Cell: Blacklist Hitman: Blood Money Thief: Deadly Shadows Hitman: Absolution Alien Isolation The Last of Us Dishonored 2 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeDead Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I don't like stealth games, really. But there are the odd exceptions. Hitman 2 and Blood Money since they felt more like puzzle games than most other stealth games. And I think the idea of being able to hide in plain sight rather than navigating obtuse level designs just works for me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 @Blakey you make me so mad stop questioning the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, DifferentClass said: Hitman 2 and Blood Money since they felt more like puzzle games than most other stealth games. Interesting take, I love stealth games but when they stray too far into that puzzle solving style and it feels like there are very specific ways of beating an area, I lose interest. Volume was an example of this, a game I was really excited about but it barely even feels like a stealth game because each area has such a specific solution. My favourite stealth games tend to be ones where I can play around with systems and AI. The AI doesn't even need to be good, just fairly consistent. So something like MGS is a good example of this where the enemies have always been highly exploitable and stupid but it feels consistent, I generally know what's going to happen when I act and if ever i get frustrated with a section I can always mess about, stick C4 onto the backs of urinating goons and the like. One of my most fondly remembered games is The Mark of Kri on the PS2. Advertised as a hack n slash, it's actually much closer to a stealth game with some great mechanics for the time and really gory too. I went back to it a while back when it was rereleased on the PS4 and I still enjoyed it but it has aged quite a bit so it's difficult to recommend it to new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 One thing I dislike in modern stealth is the use of detective vision to handle things. Hitman 2016 does this but it gets away with it by being more of a puzzle stealther. But it's why I don't really like TLOU, there's nothing about it that feels very clever or requires much planning. It just feels more like you need to stay away from these hotspots and you'll be fine. It's a bit better with human enemies and the ending section is where it actually clicks and turns into a hyper visceral 28 Days Later action/stealth game but most of the game isn't that. I think mgsv ground zeroes deserves credit for its excellent map and how it's got multiple points of entry, enough ways to deal with problems without trivialising things and also feels very compressed and claustrophobic such that you feel in danger enough of the time. I feel like Phantom Pain lost this with its wider open world and the sheer volume of toys it gave you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGERMAN Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I've never been a huge steath fan, in fact during the PS2 generation I'd say I hated the genre. For whatever reason I really clicked with the new style of stealth games, Dishonored, Deus Ex and Thief, the latter two probably being sacrilegious to older stealth fans. I do like being able to take people out without being spotted in a game, but forced stealth sections can fuck off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Please can you lock this thread please the correct list has already been established and is above all known forms of criticisms, questions and disrespect ( @Nag ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikzilla Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Did @Blakey just list all the stealth games he’s ever played? I feel like that’s a very Blakey thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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