DANGERMAN Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I think you've misunderstood regarding the analogue stick, assuming that's what you mean by 'stick', no one was advocating that for fighters (2d fighters at least). You're entitled to like what you like obviously, but 4 buttons isn't a d-pad nor is it as good as a d-pad. Anecdotally I can speak to my performance improving by using a hori pad with a d-pad in platformers and fighters rather than the Joy Con, and it sounds like I'm not the only one. I suspect if you took two well matched players, gave one of them a d-pad and the other a joycon, the d-pad player would win more fights as time went on fwiw I think the joycon is the worst Nintendo "d-pad" since the gamecube, but I also don't think Nintendo have nailed one since the Snes. I'd also say the Dreamcast d-pad was the best of its generation by a long, long way, the only one that comes close is the PS2 and that wasn't great. The Xbox and the gamecube were awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRKN Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I love the Switch but the d-pad (or lack-of) is a bit rubbish. The best d-pad is actually on the Vita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikzilla Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 This is the best D-Pad on a Joy Con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGERMAN Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 @RikSP they're the ones I was looking at. I don't want one that looks like that, but the plain ones haven't been released over here (yet?), I don't want to pay a premium for import tax from Play-Asia. Hopefully they bring a few more variants over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCH Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 24/02/2019 at 20:58, DANGERMAN said: I think you've misunderstood regarding the analogue stick, assuming that's what you mean by 'stick', no one was advocating that for fighters (2d fighters at least). You're entitled to like what you like obviously, but 4 buttons isn't a d-pad nor is it as good as a d-pad. Anecdotally I can speak to my performance improving by using a hori pad with a d-pad in platformers and fighters rather than the Joy Con, and it sounds like I'm not the only one. I suspect if you took two well matched players, gave one of them a d-pad and the other a joycon, the d-pad player would win more fights as time went on fwiw I think the joycon is the worst Nintendo "d-pad" since the gamecube, but I also don't think Nintendo have nailed one since the Snes. I'd also say the Dreamcast d-pad was the best of its generation by a long, long way, the only one that comes close is the PS2 and that wasn't great. The Xbox and the gamecube were awful More or less everyone I've ever spoken to from the Fighting Game community talks about using an arcade stick for Fighters, exclusively. My own preference is analogue sticks/D-Pad, which is often deemed "heresy" by more avid fans. I don't think any of the games I've played on Switch so far have used the 'D-Pad' but size alone makes it better that whatever the hell they were thinking with the Gamecube controller. It actually reminds me of the PSOne D-pad to be fair, with rounded off buttons.. The Dreamcast D-Pad, my most enduring memory is it was so sharp you could cut your thumb on it. That is bad ergonomics, regardless of how responsive it was. Playing on my brother's 360, what even is that D-pad good for??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGERMAN Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 @OCH I had a Dreamcast light gun. I loved it, looked nice, worked well, but after about 20 minutes it would start to rub on the inside of my thumb. Maybe Sega just made lumpy stuff that generation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCH Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, DANGERMAN said: @OCH I had a Dreamcast light gun. I loved it, looked nice, worked well, but after about 20 minutes it would start to rub on the inside of my thumb. Maybe Sega just made lumpy stuff that generation It does make you wonder if Nintendo or Sony could have made the Dreamcast the success it deserved to be? The first console with online capability and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboxy Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I keep thinking about picking up another Dreamcast and getting the collection back together. Then I think it's probably best left in the past. As for dpad, I've got no memories either way of the DC one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeDead Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Using a controller for fighting games isn't at all considered heracy. Many pros use them and often win top tournaments. It's always just been about preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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