one-armed dwarf Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 On their technical analysis on patreon, DF are calling this 'simply brilliant' on PC and that it scales really well with no stutter Bodes well for Mass Effect 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinymcshine Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Must admit, despite the promising scores, I'm struggling to really understand what the RPG elements of it are, with the gameplay seemingly turned more action orientated - I've seen little mention of any dialogue choices or branching pathways ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metroid66 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Aha, a nice up to date RPG to test my new rig with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 1 hour ago, one-armed dwarf said: On their technical analysis on patreon, DF are calling this 'simply brilliant' on PC and that it scales really well with no stutter Bodes well for Mass Effect 5 The video just gone live Watched a bit of it. I’m torn because it’s obviously better on PC, yet I’ve always played these on Xbox so kind of want to play it there As an aside I looked if there were any deals for this and it seems to be around £60 on every platform. No dice. It’s also been confirmed to get PS5 Pro support so that might be something to consider down the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Was a bit more interested in this after the review scores but then I watched SkillUps review. Holy shit the dialogue is terrible and the choices are pathetic. Facial animations are even less emotive than back in the 360 days somehow. Completely put off. I may give Inquisition a go in the near future though. Combat looks fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 11 hours ago, mfnick said: I may give Inquisition a go in the near future though. While I'm 99% convinced you're going to hate it, another part of me would love to read fresh impressions about that in 2024. Because I'm fully convinced people just glanced over its numerous problems on release because it was the first new big thing on those consoles in that genre, not unlike what happened to the original Assassin's Creed (where the general consensus also significantly soured in the years after). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeDead Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 There was an ex-Bioware guy who regretted not keeping Dragon Age a classic CRPG while having Mass Effect as their cinematic inspired action RPG. But DA has been fantasy Mass Effect for a lot longer than it hasn't so I think there is a lot of cope hoping it would go back to what the original was, even if lately with BG3 or even Disco Elysium doing well. Though that wasn't the case when this would have started production. Is Inquisition a good starting point? I do have it but I'm not sure how much prior knowledge is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 It'll be interesting to see whether BG3 will have any effect on the future of the genre or if it's simply unsustainable to pull something off like that one a triple A level, as suggested by a lot of people when it came out. As for Inquisition, I've said this before, but IMO it's an incredibly poor game. It's tedious busywork with a progression system that feels like a single player Battle Pass and a game world that's shallow and lifeless (very much grounded on the fact that it was their first Frostbite release). On the plus side every 10 to 15 hours there's a good story moment and its combat feels good despite being somewhat limited with too easily abused abilities. The issue with Dragon Age is that it's difficult to recommend any game as a starting point from today's perspective. Origins has some issues, too, and likely feels extremely archaic now. DA2 is solid and better than its reputation, but it's so different from the rest that it feels like a spin-off and doesn't set you up for anything with its closed-off nature (both geographically and in terms of lore). From the looks of it, Veilguard is the most closely linked to Inquisition in terms of its narrative (the bad guy is a party member from that game), so there's that. Still wouldn't recommend it though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinymcshine Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 As above, DA2 is probably a better launch point, as it's a fair but like Inquisition (in terms of combat loop & inventory), but a much more consise experience - rather than the bloat that affects Inquisition. DA:O was great but hasn't aged that well. Overall though if you're after a better RPG experience though, I'd recommend the Pathfinder games, where WotR edges it over Kingmaker. Furthermore Wasteland 2 & 3 are well worth a look, and Solasta too - all of these giving a more flexible and authentic CRPG experience than the more action orientated direction that DA has taken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 Yeah I get the sense with Dragon Age that you kinda have to already be into it to be part of the audience here. The series identity is sort of all over the place, between RTWP RPG and action games and open world checklists (nick's favorite). That whole 360 generation was such a bummer for genre diversity, with everything being simplified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 PS5/XSX are good, too. Although Series S seems a bit dicey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metroid66 Posted October 31, 2024 Share Posted October 31, 2024 Seems to be some controversy about boosting review scores on this, but in a way that doesn't seem particularly underhanded - like just giving early review copies to to journos who love giving 10s. Those lists of perfect scores at the top of metacritic etc, make me laugh more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted October 31, 2024 Share Posted October 31, 2024 Yeah, but I think it's fair, this is a game that's going to rile up the wrong crowd (which we'll without a doubt notice by the time the user scores go live), so I can totally see why EA is a bit selective about the process. I think it was Schreier who posted an excerpt of the Dualshocker review, which included some attention grabbing Sweet Baby Inc. namedropping nonsense. There's not going to be a fair review of the game happening in those places, so why gift it to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 31, 2024 Share Posted October 31, 2024 Tbh, this is one of several reasons why I sod off aggregate sites. It tells you very little anyway, I mainly just read a few outlets and go off that. Like, eurogamer, edge, polygon, pcgamer, RPS. Basically the ones Radiofloyd links Aggregate sites are crap, we're better off ignoring them cause they're grouping a bunch of sites in there that you maybe don't want to read from at all, like that dualshockers one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 31, 2024 Share Posted October 31, 2024 Aggregate sites are good because they can highlight games that might get missed. Lots of times an indie game gets a big score and it makes people google it Personally I think it’s also good for historical record for what people thought at the time. It’s as close as you can get to an “objective” score. By grouping every one together it dilutes a lot of bias It’s also just fun to see a game you like score well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted November 1, 2024 Share Posted November 1, 2024 So from a very early look it seems to be doing okay in terms of sales, at least on Steam. I expect console numbers being proportionally equivalent considering it's not really a PC-ish game. Hopefully it keeps some momentum and ends up doing well in EA's eyes – because while I don't agree with certain design decisions they took here I still can't shake the feeling that this is BioWare's lifeline. Is anyone here actually picking it up? I'm getting it next week but will probably wait until the end of the month until I start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nag Posted November 2, 2024 Share Posted November 2, 2024 I might try it on Game Pass in 9 months time but that's about it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinymcshine Posted November 2, 2024 Share Posted November 2, 2024 Yep, its GP or sale price for me, I'm done with paying full price for new games,when there's a whole bunch of things from the last 5+ years I've not played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metroid66 Posted November 2, 2024 Share Posted November 2, 2024 I'm probably in the minority in that I prefer action RPGs rather than the more tactical approach of something like origins. I'm tempted, but then I remember I tried the previous 3 and never got anywhere near the credits for any of them. Something about them turns me off a little, but I'm interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted November 3, 2024 Share Posted November 3, 2024 Cdkeys have the Xbox version for £49 if anyone is interested. https://www.cdkeys.com/dragon-age-the-veilguard-xbox-series-x-s-ww (Though it may see more interested eyes here than the bargain thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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