Nag 1,920 Report post Posted January 17 Shadow of the Colossus original or remake?... Although I'll bet they both have the same stupid horse.🤣🤣 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OCH 92 Report post Posted January 17 17 minutes ago, Nag said: Shadow of the Colossus original or remake?... Although I'll bet they both have the same stupid horse.🤣🤣 Original, of course. I didn't have a console between the [Fat] PS3 and Switch, after all. God forbid a horse should actually control like an animal, not a four legged person 🙄 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
one-armed dwarf 139 Report post Posted January 17 Although they're basically the same game (and same horse) I think I prefer the original SOTC. It's a very good looking game on PS4 but some of that Ueda-ness got lost in translation in the photoreal upgrade. Even TLG wasn't so precise and high fidelity. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nag 1,920 Report post Posted January 17 1 hour ago, OCH said: God forbid a horse should actually control like an animal, not a four legged person 🙄 It's a game about hitting giant creatures not a horse riding simulation... in what world is fighting your means of transportation considered fun? That horse pretty much ruined my time with the game. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
one-armed dwarf 139 Report post Posted January 17 Shadow is lots of things but I've never heard anyone call it fun really. Nor any other Ueda game for that matter 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nag 1,920 Report post Posted January 17 Aren't videogames themselves supposed to be fun? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DANGERMAN 3,190 Report post Posted January 17 not all of them, I can think of plenty that aren't but still worth playing, the original few Resident Evils for one 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
one-armed dwarf 139 Report post Posted January 17 I've never found any of his games fun but that's not the level they're trying to work at in my opinion. Like there's parts that are sort of fun. But the bulk of that game is closer to a modern walking sim type thing. Ueda games are more about the story told by the environment and it subtext than being fun action games. I don't think games all need to be fun. Edith Finch was pretty boring, but that's also trying to be a different type experience. Original RE is lots of fun tho imo. But I like getting fucked over by games like the way those games do. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Reflex 1,695 Report post Posted January 17 Entertaining doesn't always have to be fun, but you derive fun from being entertained. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
one-armed dwarf 139 Report post Posted January 17 I don't actually follow you tbh. But for Ueda I look at his games at being like the parts in Dark Souls where you're reading item descriptions. The "I wonder what happened here before I came" parts There's a bit of a "game" there also involving puzzles and stuff but I don't think people really come to his games for that* Like the puzzle of "how do I get this fucking dog bird to understand I want it to jump in the pool". Is it any wonder these games don't really sell that we'll. *(Or if they do then thats fine but it's not what I'd consider the series' strength) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyKurosaki 329 Report post Posted January 17 I dunno. I found Colossus extremely fun,it’s certainly unique. And definitely entertaining. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OCH 92 Report post Posted January 17 51 minutes ago, Nag said: Aren't videogames themselves supposed to be fun? Fun is subjective. Some people don't find the infinite Grinding of Disgaea "fun" or PokéMon breeding. Some do. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nag 1,920 Report post Posted January 17 33 minutes ago, Sly Reflex said: Entertaining doesn't always have to be fun, but you derive fun from being entertained. Exactly.... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DifferentClass 1,428 Report post Posted January 17 SotC is a struggle. There's obviously more to it than that but that's the word I'd use. But I think it does it in interesting enough ways. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DANGERMAN 3,190 Report post Posted January 17 27 minutes ago, Nag said: Exactly.... but that's not what you said 😄 I'd even dispute that you have to be entertained, something could be interesting, stressful, challenging, there's even some that are mindless distractions (Truck Simulator and the like), they're diverting rather than entertaining 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nag 1,920 Report post Posted January 17 Alright...games are shit. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites