Maf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Ayyeee thank you @one-armed dwarf maybe I just buy that one then. Unless anyone else has input? All are appreciated. Getting my flat moved around to get the desk this week. Just need to figure out a monitor now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 No please can someone else come in here and post in this thread I ain't accepting responsibility please 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGERMAN Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 might be a stupid question, but is that site building the computer for you or just sending it all to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Not a stupid question I actually didn’t think to check. But they have a 19-22 day build time so yes it looks like they build it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Reflex Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 The 3080 ti is ridiculous, it's so expensive for the little bit of performance over the standard it gives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Well the standard 3080 reduced the cost by £300 so if people think get the standard one then I’m Ok with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 One thing that's frustrating about that configurator is you don't see who the manufacturer of the card is. eg, is it an Nvidia founders RTX card. Is it by Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA etc. Helpful to know this as well. I guess it's a lottery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 It lets you pick between Asus and Nvidea by the looks. The Asus 3080ti is £600 more expensive than the Nvidea 3080ti what the what 🤔 I’m not getting that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 It’s very expensive but this monitor seems to have all the right features https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-XG27UQR-Monitor-DisplayHDR-Adaptive/dp/B098TGMJRN/ref=sr_1_24?dchild=1&keywords=4k%2B120hz%2Bmonitor&qid=1633296588&qsid=262-6871419-0793002&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A319914031%2Cp_n_feature_ten_browse-bin%3A12855886031%2Cp_n_feature_twelve_browse-bin%3A21622599031&rnid=21622596031&s=computers&sr=1-24&sres=B0713WJ415%2CB08WWXW3C7%2CB088MDKBZJ%2CB08WX2TXNF%2CB0163JLIWU%2CB08WWH5Z2M%2CB081TR5BMH%2CB08WX6ZDTY%2CB08QV5HN2K%2CB08DRSHH8T%2CB07F733RYH%2CB08JYXJCV7%2CB08KJBQT8C%2CB08NC31S4Y%2CB08FRHFXWW%2CB07B9KCFW5%2CB08BZ71XF9%2CB08CNM43PR%2CB08DQWG3JG%2CB07YCQK373&srpt=MONITOR&th=1 A bit small. I’ll be sitting closer to it though so that should make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatular Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 that pc is above my pay grade looks ace though so if you've got the money why not i guess! only thing i wasn't sure about is the cpu cooler, i've never heard of those ones, but pc specialist are supposed to be pretty good so you'd think it'd be fine? maybe upgrade to the next one up that's supposed to be better (although again never heard of it) for £8? after that they're all water coolers so i've no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I tried to find a noctua for him but all these configurators are all about that water cooling stuff. I really don't like the idea of it tbh and don't know what's good or bad. I guess noctua doesn't look 'cool', or something so they don't put them in the prebuilds Corsair are on that dropdown and they are reputable, I don't know what the TDP indicates tho? The kind of CPU power draw that matches the cooler or something? Def check that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatular Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 yeah i was going to say if i was spending that kind of money on a pc i'd want a noctua too but it wasn't an option. yeah i think that's right about the TDP. apparently it isn't a very accurate measurement, but the one that's £8 more has a higher TDP so should be better, that's all i was going off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Maf said: A bit small. I’ll be sitting closer to it though so that should make up for it. 27" really is not small for a desktop screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I found this article on RPS about the 3080 vs 3080ti and I think @Sly Reflex is right and it's not worth it https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/nvidia-rtx-3080-vs-3080-ti-graphics-card-benchmarks Basically at full 4K or 1440p there's nothing in it. So maybe I get the 3080 and a 1440p monitor. It doesn't seem that great of a card for 4K and the extra £400 for the ti doesn't really do enough to improve the situation. Still learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 What makes you say it isn't that great of a card for 4K? There basically isn't a better card right now, except the 80ti/90 which don't offer the returns that justify the price. One thing also about PC gaming is lots of games are future looking. So for instance Witcher 3 hairworks, not designed to run on 2015 GPUs really. More like 2018 GPUs (tho I still keep it turned off). Pyscho ray tracing in Cyberpunk, same thing. Altho that setting makes the game look beautiful at times Native 4k is incredibly expensive, tho so are these cards lol. PS5 does a lot of reconstruction and settles for 30fps or very middling ray tracing. RT is still kind of a future technology At some point I think there will be a 'PC recommendations thread', or maybe one already exists. Quake II RTX will be the first thing I recommend playing around with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Going by those comparisons in the RPS article it looks like it doesn't hit that high of frame rate at 4K with ultra settings. But since I'd be sitting so close to the screen and the screen being smaller I think dropping resolution in favour of better frame rates and higher settings makes more sense. Quite often on PS5 I'm happy at 1440p with higher frame rates and ray tracing like on Ratchet and Miles Morales. Applying the same idea here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 That's the idea, with these cards they use DLSS to bridge the visuals gap between rendering at 1440 and displaying at 4k. I've mixed opinions on how it looks but it's a superior image than PS5. But does weird things sometimes (rain disappears in Death Stranding) Easy high performance on maxed settings at 4k with current gen isn't a reality yet. Maybe the 5080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, one-armed dwarf said: That's the idea, with these cards they use DLSS to bridge the visuals gap between rendering at 1440 and displaying at 4k. So are you saying look at the 1440p ultra settings and DLSS gets you the rest of the way to 4K with weird exceptions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 That's what most people are doing, if the game supports DLSS Cyberpunk supports DLSS and has a pretty decent implementation without lots of weird stuff. Death Stranding doesn't have RT and can run 4k native anyway, even on my GPU. Any game with RT seems to have DLSS and it's only RT which will cause 'trouble' for these cards. Standard rendering is a piece of piss for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 🧐 Try and spot the difference between ambient occlusion medium and ultra, other than the dropped 5fps (Pyscho ray tracing in CP2077 is pretty pog tho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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