Maf Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Does that mean Star Fox will still be called Lylat Wars on our version or will it be Star Fox 64? Also why does 60hz matter when the frame rate in these games were bad anyway? There’s so much potential with this service. One of the things I want from it is the chance to play games that I played very little of or never got to play as a kid. A small list of wishes from me to Nintendo would be 1. Turok 3 2. Beetle Adventure Racing 3. Mega Man 64 4. Kirby Crystal Shards 5. Spider-Man 64 6. Castlevania 7. Duke Nukem Zero Hour 8. 40 Winks And as a bonus Smash Bros 64 with online oooooooh And then a tonne of other games that I did play a lot of but want to play again. Gimme Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon 2 I never managed to beat that game as a kid. Hopefully this doesn’t go the way of the NES and SNES online games where they started strong, it went quiet for a really long time, then they just get the crappest, cheapest games on the service. Even though the licensing and rights will be a little muddy with some of these games hopefully things from the PS1 era are better organised and they can make more of the N64 library then they did with the SNES and NES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 60hz matters cause when they ported the games over they literally slowed them down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Damn it’s hard to believe it was that slow. It never seemed that slow at the time. When they show the 50hz version the music sounds drunk. Being a kid + ignorant really was bliss, huh. Still It’ll be interesting to see how it effects N64 games. Those games were not that fast. But maybe it will make getting those high score targets on Lylat Wars even harder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I remember when I first got my 60hz switch on the Saturn. I literally knocked multiple seconds off all my best times on Sega Rally instantly. It matters. They just run faster as Dwarf shows. Plus it removes those huge borders at top and bottom of the screen. That is very good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatular Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Yeah i played pal wave race 64 back in the day, its amazing. The wii, or wii u? Version is 60hz and its crazy how much faster it feels. Its still amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Maf said: Still It’ll be interesting to see how it effects N64 games. Those games were not that fast. But maybe it will make getting those high score targets on Lylat Wars even harder It will be the same difference though, they will be 16.66 percent slower. This is also why it's way easier to dodge the lightning bolts in the PAL PS2 version of FFX, we had more time to do it edit, the PAL versions are 16.66 percent slower, the new ones on switch will be 20% faster as they are 60hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 23 hours ago, Maf said: 2. Beetle Adventure Racing As much as I'd love that and subscribe to the service if it was part of it, it seems borderline impossible that this will ever turn up with it being one of those infamous games where the licence is held by three different companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 The premium service goes live 26/10/2021 - £35 a year https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-10-15-nintendo-switch-online-launching-later-this-month-costs-gbp35-a-year Pricey but tolerable. I'll pay that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryokutai Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 10 euro more than I expected, they kind of shoehorned in some AC DLC so make it look more attractive. I dunno. Anyone here interested in playing F-Zero X online? That would be the only reason I would upgrade for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmark Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 It’s £35 for new members but discounted if you already have NSO and are upgrading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Maryokutai said: F-Zero X online? That would be the only reason I would upgrade for. Same here. Only reason o can think of to get this. Not actually sure how well F-Zero X will hold up too, it’s one of my all time favourite games and I don’t want to ruin that memory of it. Any ideas if these are up-ressed and have better frame rates? I know about th 60hz thing but N64 games are still going to be rough if not. & that price is ridiculous if they’re literally doing nothing else. Especially as someone who doesn’t give a flying fuck about the AC DLC. Remove that and do it cheaper please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I don’t think they can replicate frame issues can they? That was just the hardware. I would think being on a Switch N64 frame rate problems would be solved naturally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfnick Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I should hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I’m not saying they will it’s just my guess what the fuck do I know lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 If they're emulating the games probably they'll have less dips, but if they limit the fps to like 22 or something on ocarina of time it'll still run like that I'd bet Just checked, OoT is actually capped at 20fps on n64, pal version ran at 17. Damn, how did Blakey play these. Not for me :sick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeDead Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 I wouldn't expect any noticeable improvements, I just hope they don't run worse, which they usually don't. But F-Zero X was one of the few N64 games that ran at 60 so obviously concessions were made so it could hit that fps. I saw an F-Zero retrospective that Digital Foundry did recently and X isn't a looker, but I could still see it feeling as fast and smooth as it is. I bet it would just make me want GX, tho Oh, and the price is ridiculous. I was expecting an extra tenner at the most but they just straight up doubled it. You'd think Nintendo were skint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maf Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 They had to rebuy all those N64 games off EBay, yo, shit ain’t cheap EDIT: The first track in F Zero X is very dark and not a great impression but there are cool tracks in that game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 *download rom off of romparadise.tld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCH Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, one-armed dwarf said: Just checked, OoT is actually capped at 20fps on n64, pal version ran at 17. Damn, how did Blakey play these. Not for me :sick: Within the context of the time, you didn't actually notice. All N64 games looked weird. So your eyes just adjusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-armed dwarf Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, OCH said: Within the context of the time, you didn't actually notice. All N64 games looked weird. So your eyes just adjusted. Motion sickness didn't exist in the 90s? https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.video.nintendo/c/DtYAGwFiyZw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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