Sony Consoles and Updates

[shinymcshine]

Suppose the other issue with Sony is the whole PSVR thing; where noting the age and limitations of the current tech, they'll want (no doubt) to update it; but it's a big ask to get folk to buy a PS5 and new VR headset too.

[DANGERMAN]

45 minutes ago, Bob said:

 

Blu ray players can play CDs. PS4 just doesn't because I guess Sony thought it would be funny. 

I stand corrected. I hope they do it, especially PS2 games, not too arsed about PS1

[spatular]

the main feature I want from ps5 controllers is for them to not develop many and various faults so easily. Although the new rumble and triggers stuff sounds good too.

[Guest]

I’d like no light, speaker or motion control so it lasts more than 3 seconds. 
 

Also I remember putting a cd into my PS4 and then being shocked bugger all happened. More shocking is @DANGERMAN thinking it took a different laser. 

[mfnick]

I like the speaker so hope they keep that 

[Fragpuss]

6 hours ago, mfnick said:

I like the speaker so hope they keep that 

I like the speaker aswell but it feels criminally underutilised, the same way i guess the sixaxis was.

 

If Sony do include BC i hope they make good on the patent they applied for that would allow them to give all ps1 and 2 games trophy support, as some games i really enjoyed and hold in high esteem and would like to have a platinum for.

[DANGERMAN]

Neither Nioh nor Outlast 2 and DANGERMAN games unfortunately 

 

 

PS4 has now outsold the PS1 and Wii (Eurogamer) 

 

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According to Sony's most recent financial report, the PlayStation 4 has shipped 102.8m units, placing it second on the list of best-selling home consoles.

 

It has even managed to surpass its great granddad, the original PlayStation, as well as Nintendo's Wii, meaning PlayStation consoles now take up the top three spots on the list.

 

 

Of course, the very top spot is still held by the PS2, which has sold over 155m units in its lifetime. However, the PS4 hit the 100 million consoles sold milestone at the end of the last quarter, becoming the fastest home console to do so.

Could PS4 overtake PS2? In short, no. The arrival of PS5 next year (not to mention PlayStations 6 through 10 in the years to come) means PS4 sales will slow as players make room (and save money for) the next generation of consoles

 

[one-armed dwarf]

Nioh is basically the perfect plus game for me. I think I might hate it, but there's the slim chance that I won't

 

Pity Sekiro couldn't have gotten on there lol ?

[DisturbedSwan]

You wouldn’t have the minerals to finish it again even if it did @one-armed dwarf ?

 

Nioh is great though, everyone please play give it a go. I personally rate it higher than Bloodborne and DS2.

[DisturbedSwan]

 

[DANGERMAN]

I don't mind the light bar, they could do a better job with it working as a notification bar like the one that comes with the Pro. It really really does need a better battery though 

[one-armed dwarf]

I like it. When you make a really big wee in Death Stranding it turns yellow

[Guest]

Wii notification light was great. I wish that was the norm. 

[DisturbedSwan]

Possible PS5 SSD Tech:

 

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In April, Mark Cenry mentioned to Wired that PS5 will use a new advanced SSD technology that will be customized to provide access speeds that are higher than anything currently avaiable on the PC market. In the months after that, AMD introduced PCIe Gen4 to PC users, boosting SSD speeds from ~3GB/s to ~5GB/s [and above for RAID solutions]. Many have believed that Sony would use some version of this traditional NAND tech, only optimized for faster use and smaller CPU overhead.

But now, Sony has detailed their new big persistent memory technology push that aims to become direct competitor in to Intel's Optane. They call it Cross Point ReRAM, and they are accelerating to deliver it to market in 2020. Advantage of ReRAM is ability to become cheaper with smaller process nodes [Optane will not be easy beyond 14nm], faster speeds than NAND, less power and heat than NAND, etc. They are focusing a lot of their efforts on making a smart and low-power controller for this type of drive.

 

Persistent Memory Summit Live Stream 2019

 

 

Target specs:
128GB drive [8 x 16GB] - 25.6 GB/s read, 9.6 GB/s write, PCIe gen5 x8, target wattage 14.6W+
256GB drive [16 x 16GB] - 51.2 GB/s read, 19.2 GB/s write, PCIe gen5 x16, target wattage 27.2W+

Price is unknown, but 25 GB/s read is a tremendous number. That's today PC DDR4 RAM speed area, and total decimation of retail PC SSDs. 16 chip version has faster [presumably sequential] read speeds than any consumer-made non-OC PC RAM drive.

If PS5 is using this technology, we should stop expecting large primary memory pool for launching games. The setup will undoubtedly use smaller ReRAM drive [even this 128GB is insane enough, they could gimp it to work at high speed and it will still be a monster] and mass "cold storage" drive with cheaper SSD/HDD.




Transfer speeds of older tech:

• Today's retail PCIe gen4 x4 NVME SSDs top at around 5 GB/s.
• Mass consumer PCIe gen3 NVME SSDs are around 3 GB/s
• Old SATA3 SSDs are 512 MB/s
• PS4 - HDD in PS4 [with very slow seek speeds of a laptop drive] is 150 MB/s sequential, 40 MB/s for small files [and can go lower for very small files, PS4 Spider-Man was made to load 20MB/s while Spidey is swinging across the city]
• PS3 - 22 GB/s to VRAM, 25.6 GB/s to system memory [not counting other caches]
• Xbox 360 - 21.6 GB/s to VRAM, 22.4 GB/s to system memory [not counting other caches]
• Nintendo Switch - 25.6 GB/s to system LPDDR memory [at 1600MHz]

PC DDR4transfer rates:

 

• DDR4 2133：17 GB/s
• DDR4 2400：19.2 GB/s
• DDR4 2666：21.3 GB/s
• DDR4 3200：25.6 GB/s

[Guest]

tmi

[one-armed dwarf]

Titanfall 2 on PS plus. Might be the first Plus game I download in years.

[DisturbedSwan]

If the leak's correct that is, nothing official yet.

 

 

[one-armed dwarf]

Monster Supercross? Forget about Titanfall 2 then ?

[Guest]

£62.98 

[Maf]

Titanfall 2 is consistently on sale for around £3.50 so no